Laura Dekker at Bürgerkulturzentrum Windeck on
October 6, 2013.
Transcript of the video by Thomas Weber.
- At the ‘Kabelmetal’
hall in Windeck-Schladern (Germany) -
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Jürgen
Orthaus (Moderator): „[Tonight we have a] very extraordinary young woman with
us: Laura Dekker, the first [must be: youngest] singlehanded circumnavigator
ever. Welcome!”
[Applause
from the audience. Laura Dekker and Mr. Orthaus take place on the sofa on the
stage]
J.O.: “She
seriously deserved that applause. I keep asking myself – Why does Laura Dekker chooses
to make a public presentation after having done a presentation of her [German
version of her] book in Hamburg… [why does she chooses to make] her only public
presentation in Europe, here in Windeck?!”
Laura Dekker:
“Well, that’s because Thomas Weber lives here and he followed me during my
trip, and he came up with the idea for me to give a presentation here, too.
That’s how it came to be.”
J.O.: “How
did he follow you?”
L.D.: “Via
the internet and my website.”
J.O.: “Some
time ago it was said that a circumnavigation is not that difficult: Sail
southbound until the butter starts melting and then simply turn left. But
that’s not how it is, is it?”
L.D.: “You
can try doing it like that too…”
[Laughing
from the audience]
L.D.: “…
however, that’s not how I did it.”
J.O.: “So
now we listen to Laura Dekker and how she did it. OK?”
L.D.:
“Yes!”
J.O.: “Your
microphone is over there.”
L.D.: “Ah,
OK.”
[Laura
walks over to the speaker's desk]
L.D.:
“[takes the microphone] Everything works. Good. Welcome everyone. As he said,
I’m the youngest circumnavigator and I’d like to tell you a bit about that.
I’ll start with a short video, so yeah, let’s have a look.”
[Applause
from the audience]
L.D.: “OK.
Welcome again everyone. Well, it takes some time to load. Good, then I’ll
start; my computer again does not do what I want. I’m better at sailing than with
those things here. Ah, OK… here… we… start. Yes. Good. Here we are. Oh… how do
I enlarge it [the picture]? [Audience: “Perform a double click!”] Pardon?
Double click? Is that good? Yes, that’s good, huh? OK. Good. I start with…
well, the very beginning of my story and that starts with my parents. These are
my father and mother, and they aren’t quite normal either…
At ten years
‘old I was already sailing alone. Well, not completely alone… in company of the
dog… Spot… he’s asleep… he is here, too! Spotje! Awake!!! Come! Come here!
[Laura steps forward from the speaker’s desk, Spot comes by her side] Well, I
did not sail completely alone. That’s my dog [Laura pets Spot; applause from
the audience]. And he always came sailing with me when I was younger. [He
sailed with me] In the Optimist and in the bigger dinghies, during competitions
he also sailed with me and, yeah, here [in the picture] you also see the dog
aboard the Hurley 700… I fear he doesn’t like so many people… he’s a bit shy…
well, he isn’t quite a good sailor either, however, he gladly [accompanied me;
sentence incomplete].
… and then
I… I can’t remember, sometime in August 2010 I sailed off from Holland, with my
father since, well, in Europe they still did not want me to sail alone with
that ship [Guppy]. And with my father we sailed to Gibraltar because… they
don’t have so many rules over there and they allowed me to sail off.
Of course,
I sometimes was afraid but… not afraid enough to go back [home]. And going
forward with small steps… you can circumnavigate the world this way too. I was thinking
I could either sail a hundred times to England and back, or I could do the same
in a row, and then have circumnavigated the world. That’s what I thought – not
the WHOLE world at one go but little by little.
From the
San Blas Islands I went to the Panama Canal. And… I chose that route because
‘Guppy’ isn’t really equipped to go around the Cape, the Cape Hoorn, but also
because I wanted to see the Caribbean and the Pacific Ocean, and so it wouldn’t
really have made sense not to go around there since they had built a nice large
canal just for that purpose. So I went through there.
I wasn’t
quite alone either, I’ve had a bird with me [in a figurative sense that
expression means ‘to have bats in the belfry’], however he was a meany… He shitted
all over the solar panels [Audience: “Oh!”, laughing]. He must have eaten a big
fish since that [pointing at the picture] is plenty of shit. Well, yeah…
… so real
beautiful. And then I… Woah! [Laura clicked on the wrong picture] I arrived in
Sint Maarten. Of course I started in the Caribb… Gib… Gibraltar… alone, but
since the path lines crossed again in Sint Maarten, it [the circumnavigation]
was finished there. That’s my arrival [showing picture]. My parents and my
little sister came too, and my family. That was very nice. However, there were
so many people … and the only thing I wanted was to sleep and eat.
… I also
wrote my book. Well… If there are people here who would like to know more about
my trip you can buy the book over here [pointing to the table with copies of
her book]. And, well… that’s why I am here tonight now that the book has been translated
to German and - why does this [the computer] not work? – and since I am in Germany
to promote the book and do presentations, well you all know I had to come HERE,
to the opposite, the other side, well… the other end of the world and… that’s
actually… the End… Yes… that’s it already!”
[Big
applause from the audience, Laura steps away from the speaker’s desk and takes
place on the sofa again with Mr. Orthaus]
Spot: “Woof,
woof!”
LD.:
“Spotje…”
J.O:
“Thanks to Laura Dekker… [inaudible]”
Spot:
“WOOF!!! WOOF!!!”
L.D.: “[Spot
is] Nervous, too.”
J.O.: “An
unbelievable trip. And not even a bit of cock-and-bull stories, it’s all
authentic. Congratulations. I have found a wonderful quote by Mark Twain that, I
think, would fit you very well: "[…]
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream."
Does that fit?
L.D.: “Yes,
definitely!”
J.O.: “I
think so, too. There are many people around who think like you, Mark Twain for
example would be one. What I keep asking myself is: What’s your fascination with
sailing?”
L.D.:
“That’s a good question since when I’m ashore I’d like to go sailing and when
I’m sailing I’d like to be ashore as soon as possible. Yes, that’s interesting.
However, I find it very nice to be alone with nature and to travel somewhere
only with the wind. Out there it is a completely different world; you are
really alone at one with nature. That’s really fascinating. I can’t really put
it into words, you have to experience it. You have to be… out there and
experience it.”
J.O.: “I’m
a sailor too, but I have to say that I only sail very small distances, not as a
skipper but as crew, and each time I step aboard the boat and it casts off I
leave all my worries behind me, I take nothing of those on the ship with me
strangely enough.”
L.D.:
“Except for the worries about the ship, of course…”
J.O.:
“Those happen there. As they will come. Speaking of the ship – I’d like to know
some details. What kind of ship was it?”
L.D.: “It is
a Jeanneau, a French built ship, now 35 years old already, [she’s] 12 meters
[long] and [she has] two masts as you have seen on the photo. So… yes.”
J.O.: “It’s
called a ketch, right?”
L.D.: “A
ketch, yes.”
J.O.: “I
have read – I did not know that – that because there are two masts, one further
to the bow and the other one far at the stern, the sailboat steers itself a
little bit so to say, doesn’t it?”
L.D.: “Er…
not quite…”
J.O.: “Not
quite?”
L.D.: “No…
sadly, it does not.”
J.O.:
“Sadly not. OK, then my information was wrong. However, it was specially
equipped for that long term trip. What parts of the ship did you add or
change?”
L.D.: “The
wind steering system of course, the solar panels… I did not change so much… er…”
Interjection
from the audience: “The rudder blade!”
L.D.: “The
rudder blade, that’s right, I extended it. Actually, my father helped me a
little bit with that. We extended it because we had read somewhere that it [the
version of the rudder blade that the boat was equipped with from the
manufacturer] did not work well aboard other similar ships. But for the trip I
merely added the radar system, the wind steering device, new sails of course,
and a good engine and – very important – the solar panels.”
J.O.: “One
thing struck me during your speech and it fascinated me: You made it sound so
easy, took it all cooly. When difficulties like heavy storms occur – ‘30 knots,
no 40 knots… I’m gonna sit this out!’ and that went on and on – I’ve never had
the impression that you panicked at a single time.”
L.D.: “Er…”
J.O.: “Or
did you [panic]?”
L.D.: “No.
Panic is very dangerous. When you panic you forget the whole world and that’s
very dangerous aboard a boat. Earlier, my father made me practice not to panic
and to think about what I should do in case something happens. I was asked before
about fear and people said that I sounded so easy-cool. And I thought about
that and… yes, actually it’s easy for me since I’m used to it because I grew up
like that. Of course I’m scared of [various] things, however I guess you are
afraid of the things you don’t know. I know sailing and I know Guppy pretty
well, hence you are [I am] less afraid of that.”
J.O.: “You
spent more time at sea than ashore, right?”
L.D.:
“Right, I merely lived in a house for one year total.”
[Laughter
from the audience]
J.O.: “How
did you experience that?”
L.D.: “I
was very young so I can’t really remember that time. But when [I am inside] a
house now it feels somewhat like a prison. I like a ship very much …”
J.O.:
“There you have unlimited freedom.”
L.D.:
“Yes…”
J.O.: “But you
also had to face great loneliness when you sailed solo. How did you handle
that?”
L.D.: “As I
said, it was a very nice change from being ashore with many people and be alone
at sea again. I found that very nice, I never felt really lonely. Of course, I
occasionally thought ‘What the hell am I doing here?!’ However, you can’t
disembark and walk back – that’s impossible. Things have to go on and the next
day it’s alright again.”
J.O.: “Is
that your attitude in life? It has to go on, always think forward?”
L.D.: “Well…
I actually would not think backwards! I don’t know how to say… [she laughs]”
[Laughter
and applause from the audience]
J.O.:
“[laughs] Well… you have to keep that attitude. You also write in your book
‘Life is a journey, not a destination’.
L.D.: “[in
English] Yes!”
J.O.: “OK.
Has there been anything that you missed at sea?”
L.D.: “In
the beginning, yes. In the beginning I missed a warm shower, fresh food, but
you get used to it. As I said [in the lecture] the people in the islands [small
islands with only little comfort] are used to little comfort and living on a
boat you also get used to it and you don’t miss a thing. Anyway, fresh food or
a cold drink was something I missed at times.”
J.O.: “I
think so, too. At first, it did not really sink into you that you had
circumnavigated the world as the youngest human being ever. I can pretty much
understand that since you were on a journey for about one year. I guess it took
500 days, right? Approximately.”
L.D.: “Yes…
From Sint Maarten to Sint Maarten it was one year and one day. But from
Gibraltar it was much longer… I don’t know, I did not count [the days].”
J.O.: “In
fact you settled a new world record but it won’t be recognized. Why not?”
L.D.: “[I] Don’t
know. You’ll have to ask them! Ha ha!”
[Laughter
from the audience]
J.O.: “Of
course, I know their reasoning. They don’t want to encourage more and younger
people to undertake such a dangerous adventure.”
L.D.: “Yes,
yes maybe… I thing that… Well, my parents knew me very well and they knew that
I could do it. However, I think there are many people who would tell their kids
to do [something] because the parents themselves would like to do so. And that
might become very dangerous, yes.”
J.O.: “When
you look back now… One year and one day, or 500 days in total… Did that trip
change you in anyway?”
L.D.: “No!
It was nice because it was spontaneous and because it was like it was. In the
beginning I did not know the boat really well and I had to learn some… but it
was very good. If I was to sail again I might change a few things, but back
then - no.”
J.O.: “What
[would you do different]?”
L.D.: “Hm…
good question. Well, I would not do it exactly the same again because I have
already done it. But…”
[Laughter
from the audience]
J.O.:
“Always thinking ahead!” [Laughs]
L.D.: “I’d
like to sail to colder regions, the…”
J.O.: “The
Antarctica?”
L.D.: “Yes,
Antarctica, or the North Pole. However, for that I would need a different kind
of ship.”
J.O.: “I
think so, too. You would have to take warm clothes on.”
L.D.:
“Yes.”
J.O.: “I’d
like to open the Q & A period now. If you have a question please raise your
hand and I will come to you with the microphone. A question anyone? Just wait,
the other people would like to understand you, too.”
Q.1: “I’d
like to know how you coped with lack of sleep. Your sleep was always interrupted
and you only could sleep for short times.”
L.D.: “You
get used to that. When you are back ashore you also wake-up at every hours.
Even though you could sleep all night in a stretch you wake-up anyways. Yes. I
guess it’s easier for younger people.”
J.O.: “I
walk the row from left to right. I keep the microphone.”
Q.2: “Did
you ever had to deal with evil people? So far we’ve heard that all the people
[you have met] were really nice or have you ever been afraid by people?”
L.D.:
“Well, the biggest number of evil people I have met was in Holland…”
[Laughter
and applause from the audience]
L.D.:
[laughs] “Happily, there are more nice than evil people around, however, yes of
course, yes [she met evil people on her trip].”
J.O.: “OK.”
Q.3: “In
the photos we have often seen you with a guitar, a ukulele and in the movie
even with a recorder [flute]. What role played the music for you and did you
even compose your own songs?”
L.D.: “I’m trying
but… well! I can play the guitar but playing the recorder did not work so well.
I started with it since playing guitar aboard a ship is not easy; you get
tossed around. However, I really like making music, yes.”
Q.3: “There
is no song… There is no song about the journey?”
L.D.: “I’m
working on it!”
[Laughter
from the audience]
J.O.: “Is
there another question over there? OK.”
Q.4:
“Laura, what does ‘Home’ mean to you and what’s your definition of ‘Home’ or where
would you say home is for you now?”
L.D.:
“Guppy.”
[Laughter
from the audience]
Q.4: “I
mean [is it] Holland or New Zealand, Guppy…”
L.D.: “Most
of the time it’s Guppy. Where Guppy is, is my home but now… I think it’s New
Zealand, yes.”
Q.5: “My
question is: At what wind force did you put on a life vest? Did you put one on?”
L.D.:
“Well, a life vest is only of little use since when you fall over board then
there is no one to sail back [to you]. You have a life vest [on], you’re adrift
but the boat is gone…”
Q.5: “[inaudible]”
L.D.: “… so
I wore a harness all the time, yes. I always wore the harness even if there was
no wind at all since I was alone aboard the ship and if anything happened…”
Q.5: “I did
not understand that. What… er… what…” [Laura used the English word ‘harness’
instead of the German term “Sicherheitsleine”]
L.D.: “A ‘Gurt’
[strap]… that’s the German term, yes?”
Q.5: “Oh
yes.”
J.O.: “A
strap.”
Q.5: “Ah,
OK.”
L.D.:
“Yes…”
Q.5: “And
that was tied [somewhere?]…”
L.D.: “A
strap with a rope tied to the ship, yes.”
Q.5: “Thank
you.”
J.O.: “OK.”
Q.6: “You
mentioned a ‘dropdown’ [knockdown]. That means the boat had capsized and layed
on its sails?”
L.D.: “It
means the mast was in the water.”
Q.6: “Well
yeah, how do you get that upright again?!”
L.D.: “[You
have to] Pull very strongly!”
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: “No.
Seaworthy boats have a keel which is very heavy. Usually the boat rights itself
up again and it [always] did so far.”
Q.6: “And
you felt relieved about that.”
L.D.: “Er…”
Q.6:
“[inaudible]”
L.D.: “Yes.
Well…”
Q.7: “In
your lecture you mentioned the word ‘illness’ only once. How were you medically
prepared and did you suffer from other health problems during your trip?”
L.D.: “Before
the trip I did [follow a course] in first aid, specially for me since I would
be alone to help myself [the first aid class considered the circumstances
aboard the boat]. But happily… well, I’ve had [problems] with my foot and I’ve
been ill one or two times but happily nothing serious. Indeed, I had prepared
for that, yes.”
Q.8: “Do
you have the necklace with ‘Guppy’ with you?”
L.D.: “Yes,
you mean the necklace with ‘Guppy’? Yes, here it is.” [She shows it] “All the
time!”
[Applause
from the audience]
J.O.: “Is
that your talisman?”
L.D.: “Hm,
yeah... maybe. I don’t know. I never tried taking it off.”
[Laughing
from the audience]
J.O.: “OK.”
Q.9: “From
my own experience I can tell that the physical strength, experiencing your very
own limits of physical strength can be very unpleasant. The usual solo
circumnavigator is tall and strong. Did you ever reach your physical limits?”
L.D.: “Er…
I don’t think [I experienced that] in the way you just described. I
occasionally thought ‘What am I doing here?’ and ‘Why?’, however… it wasn’t
really that bad.”
Q.9: “OK.
My question was about if you once felt so exhausted that you thought something
like ‘Well, I can’t go on’ or ‘I stop with that’.”
L.D.: “Of
course that happens at sea. And as I said earlier, you can’t disembark… sure
you can, but that wouldn’t be so good…“
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: ”…
you simply have to go on and some hours later that [feeling] fades away. When
you sit [aboard the boat] and watch the ocean and think about it and then… You
have to… I really, really wanted to do it myself [the sailing tour], so I guess
because of that I never had thoughts like ’Man, what am I doing’ or… I never
wished to go back [home] again because it was such a dream and it made me think
many times ‘Alright, you wanted to do it, so here you are, simply go ahead!’.
Yes…”
J.O.:
“Another question over there.”
Q.10:
“There is this French regatta, the Vendée Globe, a non-stop around the world
without stops. I once heard that it’s the toughest one of that kind of regatta.
Would you like to participate in that?”
L.D.:
“Well, I think… I have wanted to do so, the Volvo Ocean Race etc. and I started
to do so a little bit, however, I don’t find it is so nice any longer nowadays
since there are computers everywhere and electronics and so on. Nowadays those
who have the most money for the Vendée Globe and the Volvo and also the
America’s Cup win and I find that very unfortunate since it’s not really [has
not very much to do with] sailing.”
[Applause
from the audience]
J.O.: “More
questions? OK.”
Q.11: “I
have a question about school. At 14 you normally have to attend school...”
[Laughter
from the audience]
Q.11: “…
did you have to learn [for school] aboard to boat to satisfy the authorities?”
L.D.: “Yes.
I followed World-school, a Distance Learning School aboard the boat. And that’s
what I really did, however, I did not graduate since I would have had to go
back to Holland and… I did not find that so important. In New Zealand I did
exams to see [evaluate] my level [of education] and [it turned out that] it’s
high enough so I could study if I’d like to do so. In fact it’s enough for me
[another possible translation: I’m fed up with it now].
[Laughter
and applause from the audience]
Q.12: “How
many times did you encounter other ships at sea, I mean far away from shore.
And in case you met someone did you [a German term for communicate] with each
other? Was that possible at all?”
L.D.: “?” [She
did not understand the meaning of that term]
Q.12: “Did
you wave to each other, did you talk…”
L.D.: “Ah!”
Q.12: “… or
shout anything?”
L.D.: “Yes,
yes, yes. Of course, you can chat via VHF [radio], actually all ships are
equipped with that. Er… I did not see too many yachts… I guess about three or
four times. [But I’ve seen] Much more container ships but they, no, they don’t
feel like chatting so much.
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: ”I
told them that they had to give way, nevertheless, they don’t.”
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: “But
yachts, yes. You chat with each other.”
Q.13: “I
recently watched a movie about the pollution of the oceans with plastic
garbage. Did you see that, too? Are the oceans really that dirty?”
L.D.:
“Sadly, yes. When I recall the stories I heard from my parents’ from 20 years
ago, yes. As I said, it’s the same with the sea animals and also plastic and
stuff in the ocean, yes.”
Q.14: “I’d
like to know some details about your meeting [or joint venture] with the Sea
Shepherd people.”
L.D.:
“Well, prior to the trip I joined Sea Shepherd, I also got a flag [from them]
on my boat and I also collected money for them during my trip. I met them once
in Holland and we kept in touch.”
Q.14:
“WOW!” [Applauds]
J.O.: “[inaudible]
about that organization?”
L.D.: “Eh?”
J.O.:
“Could you tell us some more about that organization?”
L.D.: “They
stand for the conservation of the oceans. They’re a little bit like Greenpeace
but they do a bit more. They go out with ships and try to stop whalers mainly [from]
Japan. They don’t just write something down and hold it up but they go out and
act. Yes.”
J.O.: “I
have read that you have had an unpleasant encounter with a whale.”
L.D.: “Yes,
yes. It must have thought that Guppy was a fellow or so.”
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: “[The
whale] Came very close and it scared me. They are bigger than Guppy.”
J.O.: “Oh
yes.”
Q.15: “How
do you get over the fear that there might be flotsam out there, containers and
so on.
L.D.:
“Yeah… the [inaudible]…”
Q.15: “At
night I would have an uneasy feeling. I could not sleep then.”
L.D.: “In
the beginning I had problems about that too, but you have to have faith that
the ship keeps sailing by itself. Anyway, sometimes you HAVE to sleep. It can
happen at anytime that [there might be] a whale, a container – they are indeed
very dangerous. But even if you watch out continuously you could also miss
them. There is always something.”
Q.16: “I’d
like to ask… On a starry night in the middle of the ocean, it must be an
incredibly starry sky?”
L.D.: “Yes,
that’s right. I got pretty much used to that but since I’m ashore I realize how
beautiful it was out there. So many stars and sometimes it’s almost
illuminated. Yes.”
J.O.: “Are
there more questions? Yes, please.”
Q.17: “When
you were back ashore again, what was your first meal?”
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: ”Hamburger!”
[Laughter
from the audience]
Q.17: “I
know that myself after coming back from a long trip, I had to eat something
natural when I was in Germany again…”
Q.17: “…
you had to abstain from so much. Thanks.”
L.D.: “A
hamburger and a nice cold cola…”
[Laughter
from the audience]
L.D.: “…
with ice, yep.”
J.O.: “Any
more questions? Yes, please.”
Q.18: “When
someone does such a trip you normally need to have very much money, that’s what
one would think, however, that didn’t seem to be the case with you?”
L.D.: “That’s
what people think. On the other hand, ashore you have to pay for your house,
for water, electric energy. Aboard the ship I get my electric power from the
solar cells and water from rainwater. I anchored [off the shore], so I didn’t
have to pay [for taking berth at] marinas. Hence I only had to repair and
maintain the ship and buy food provisions for me, but I don’t eat that much, so
that works [it’s not too expensive] and I think… you can do it many different ways,
I know people who have the very best of the best of the best stuff [equipment]
aboard, they take berth at marinas and go out for dinner. I am also convinced
that if you eat the local food and don’t always buy what you are used to, it’s
not that expensive. For me I think it’s cheaper than living ashore. But it
depends on the way you do it. Yes.”
J.O.: “When
I did a research about your trip I found that your principle of living is ‘Just
to live’.”
L.D.: “Yes.
That’s why we are here!”
J.O.: “You
couldn’t say it more briefly. There’s another question.”
Q.19: “I’d
like to ask you about your plans once you have Captain’s license. What are your
plans for your career? Do you want to work [as captain]?”
L.D.: “My
biggest [most important] plan is always not to have any plan…”
[Laughter
and applause from the audience]
L.D.: “I
actually haven’t too much plans for the future except for getting my captain’s
license and to do boat deliveries. I don’t really know the German term,
however, sailing ships for other people from one to the other end of the world
and earning money doing that. But I don’t know how things will work out. I have to see.”
J.O.: “But
not aboard a sailing ship?”
L.D.:
“Sure! Of course a sailing ship!”
J.O.: “Your
deep passion for sailing struck me when you were not allowed to sail off. Back
then you even did a suicide attempt.”
L.D.: “Er…
not quite. The media exaggerated that story a bit...”
J.O.: “I
see!”
L.D.: “… it
was also because they [the authorities] made it very difficult in Holland. I
don’t feel like going into further details because… it’s also very complicated.
If I was to tell all about it I would have to talk for three more hours.”
J.O.: “OK.
Now you are very famous, you’re in the limelight, something you didn’t have
earlier. How do you deal with that?”
L.D.: “I
learned from that a little bit. I did not want that [to become famous], I
actually wanted to sail off and then everything happened as it happened, and I
had to learn to deal with that. In the beginning it was not easy but now it is
as it is. I found out that occasionally you have to say something to the media,
otherwise, if you keep quiet, they simply write what they want. So you have to
say something from time to time. And that’s what I do.”
J.O.: “And
tonight you told us very much, it all was exciting and nice. A big thanks to
Laura Dekker!”
[Applause
from the audience]
L.D.:
“Thank you.”
J.O.: “Your
book is over there, ‘A girl, a dream - Solo around the world’, 19, 90 Euro,
it’s absolutely worth reading. Thanks again to you and of course to Thomas
Weber, who arranged everything [for the event] and who brought Laura Dekker to
Windeck!”
[Applause
from the audience]
J.O.: “And
of course thanks to you for your interesting questions. Johnny Depp said
something really, really great…”
L.D.:
“Who?”
J.O.:
“Yes.”
L.D.:
“Who?!”
J.O.: “I
tell you… Johnny Depp…”
L.D.: “Ah.”
J.O.: “… the
actor…”
L.D.: ”Hm…”
J.O.: “’You
can’t buy happiness with money’, he said, ‘but you can buy a yacht with which to
sail into happiness’.
L.D.: “Hm!”
J.O.:
“Thank you very much!”
[Applause
from the audience]
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